<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Ron McKinney has lost big time to Insulated Wall Systems (IWS)</title>
	<atom:link href="http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/</link>
	<description>Worldwide Consumer Redressal  Weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:48:02 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-6499</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-6499</guid>
		<description>And by the way, the threat of a lawsuit was not directed at you, Mr. Tabor.

Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, the threat of a lawsuit was not directed at you, Mr. Tabor.</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-6498</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 06:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-6498</guid>
		<description>Yes, it is true that I got a lawyer for the trial. Got him about a month before the trial. &quot;Too little too late&quot; as they say. What do I know about a trial?

Of course, Mr. Tabor is flat out lying about any intentional damage to the work as there was none. What you see is what Mr. Tabor left us with.

As far as the first set of pictures showing Mr. Tabor&#039;s work they were taken right after the work, in late 2004 and early 2005, certainly not &quot;years&quot; later. Mr. Tabor&#039;s work was finished the first of November , 2004. The reconstruction pictures start at the sign that says &quot;Sequoyah Vinyl Creations&quot; and were taken in 2006 when we had the work redone.

And about losing the case, I lost because my experts did not show up and my attorney failed to ask for a continuance. Not to mention, he was a tad bit over confident and tad bit inexperienced. Plus, I was give out fighting a stupid battle.

Please take note that Mr. Tabor does not bother to comment on the &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&quot; that he wrote with his own hand.

Come on Mr. Tabor did you write that with your own hand or not? Your potential customers want to know? Did the idea of telling folks a flat out lie called &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&quot; come from your mind down through to your hand or did it come from the mind of &quot;Mack&quot; Hilton as you claimed in your deposition? I quote:

&quot;5      Q    What do you call this?  I guess it is a
 6  postcard.  Is that what you identify it as, a
 7  postcard?
 8      A    Yes, I would identify it as a postcard.
 9      Q    Would you identify it as some type of
10  advertising literature?
11      A    Yes.
12      Q    That originated from Insulated Wall
13  Systems?
14      A    No, actually this was Mack Hilton&#039;s
15  design, it just happens to be in my handwriting,&quot;

[the &quot;postcard&quot; is where Mr. Tabor wrote &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&quot;]

Oh and please explain to the common folk your &quot;motion in limine&quot; concerning the &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&quot;
statement. I am sure they will just love to hear your legal explanation. Sadly for you, Mr.Tabor, most folks are like me. You are only as good as your word. And notwithstanding what you will ever say or ever have said you did not live up to your &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED.&quot; Based solely on this your word means nothing!

Also let me understand your statement in the deposition. 

Did Gary Michael Hilton (AKA Mack Hilton, confessed and convicted murderer possibly awaiting execution) design Insulated Wall Systems, Inc. marketing literature and you just merely wrote it out in your own handwriting? Is that the way it went down? Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken. That does appear to be what you are saying.

And maybe the folks who read this would like to know just exactly how much you and your wife were willing to spend to win a lawsuit even though the customer [me] only ask you to fix about $1200 worth of work (if my memory serves me right from my first letter) and your refusal to accept over $9000 that I offered you in the second or third letter from me (again if my memory serves me right.)

Here is my calculations based on my estimates. Mr. Moore, your attorney, after your wife left the case, cost was approximately $13,000. Now I estimate your wife put in at least 200 hours and her rate was probably $200 per hour. So my estimate of her time was an astonishing $40,000!!!! Of course her time was not entered now was it?

Be that as it may she definitely earned that money wouldn&#039;t you agree Mr. Tabor? Of course you would.

So the truth appears to be that Mr. Tabor would rather spend at least $53,000 (worth of time, energy and cash) for lawyer services rather than do around $1200 worth of work the customer asks for on a $16,000 job and Mr. Tabor would rather spend $53,000 (worth of time, energy and cash) than accept over $9,000 that the customer offers for what the customer deems to be shoddy work. 

Of course, if your wife merely invested 100 hours over 4 years or so then her accumulated cost would be a mere $20,000. Personally I think 200 hours is very low estimate.

Either way, Mr. Tabor, have you ever heard the phrase, 

&quot;Choke on gnat, and swallow an elephant?&quot;

Or how about this one?

&quot;Birds of a feather flock together.&quot;

Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is true that I got a lawyer for the trial. Got him about a month before the trial. &#8220;Too little too late&#8221; as they say. What do I know about a trial?</p>
<p>Of course, Mr. Tabor is flat out lying about any intentional damage to the work as there was none. What you see is what Mr. Tabor left us with.</p>
<p>As far as the first set of pictures showing Mr. Tabor&#8217;s work they were taken right after the work, in late 2004 and early 2005, certainly not &#8220;years&#8221; later. Mr. Tabor&#8217;s work was finished the first of November , 2004. The reconstruction pictures start at the sign that says &#8220;Sequoyah Vinyl Creations&#8221; and were taken in 2006 when we had the work redone.</p>
<p>And about losing the case, I lost because my experts did not show up and my attorney failed to ask for a continuance. Not to mention, he was a tad bit over confident and tad bit inexperienced. Plus, I was give out fighting a stupid battle.</p>
<p>Please take note that Mr. Tabor does not bother to comment on the &#8220;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&#8221; that he wrote with his own hand.</p>
<p>Come on Mr. Tabor did you write that with your own hand or not? Your potential customers want to know? Did the idea of telling folks a flat out lie called &#8220;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&#8221; come from your mind down through to your hand or did it come from the mind of &#8220;Mack&#8221; Hilton as you claimed in your deposition? I quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;5      Q    What do you call this?  I guess it is a<br />
 6  postcard.  Is that what you identify it as, a<br />
 7  postcard?<br />
 8      A    Yes, I would identify it as a postcard.<br />
 9      Q    Would you identify it as some type of<br />
10  advertising literature?<br />
11      A    Yes.<br />
12      Q    That originated from Insulated Wall<br />
13  Systems?<br />
14      A    No, actually this was Mack Hilton&#8217;s<br />
15  design, it just happens to be in my handwriting,&#8221;</p>
<p>[the "postcard" is where Mr. Tabor wrote "SATISFACTION GUARANTEED"]</p>
<p>Oh and please explain to the common folk your &#8220;motion in limine&#8221; concerning the &#8220;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&#8221;<br />
statement. I am sure they will just love to hear your legal explanation. Sadly for you, Mr.Tabor, most folks are like me. You are only as good as your word. And notwithstanding what you will ever say or ever have said you did not live up to your &#8220;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED.&#8221; Based solely on this your word means nothing!</p>
<p>Also let me understand your statement in the deposition. </p>
<p>Did Gary Michael Hilton (AKA Mack Hilton, confessed and convicted murderer possibly awaiting execution) design Insulated Wall Systems, Inc. marketing literature and you just merely wrote it out in your own handwriting? Is that the way it went down? Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken. That does appear to be what you are saying.</p>
<p>And maybe the folks who read this would like to know just exactly how much you and your wife were willing to spend to win a lawsuit even though the customer [me] only ask you to fix about $1200 worth of work (if my memory serves me right from my first letter) and your refusal to accept over $9000 that I offered you in the second or third letter from me (again if my memory serves me right.)</p>
<p>Here is my calculations based on my estimates. Mr. Moore, your attorney, after your wife left the case, cost was approximately $13,000. Now I estimate your wife put in at least 200 hours and her rate was probably $200 per hour. So my estimate of her time was an astonishing $40,000!!!! Of course her time was not entered now was it?</p>
<p>Be that as it may she definitely earned that money wouldn&#8217;t you agree Mr. Tabor? Of course you would.</p>
<p>So the truth appears to be that Mr. Tabor would rather spend at least $53,000 (worth of time, energy and cash) for lawyer services rather than do around $1200 worth of work the customer asks for on a $16,000 job and Mr. Tabor would rather spend $53,000 (worth of time, energy and cash) than accept over $9,000 that the customer offers for what the customer deems to be shoddy work. </p>
<p>Of course, if your wife merely invested 100 hours over 4 years or so then her accumulated cost would be a mere $20,000. Personally I think 200 hours is very low estimate.</p>
<p>Either way, Mr. Tabor, have you ever heard the phrase, </p>
<p>&#8220;Choke on gnat, and swallow an elephant?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or how about this one?</p>
<p>&#8220;Birds of a feather flock together.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Tabor</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-6332</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-6332</guid>
		<description>McKinney fails to mention that he was represented by an attorney for the trial that he lost.  The pictures that he has posted were taken years after the work had been completed and after McKinney had intentionally damaged the work before he took the pictures.  That is why he lost the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McKinney fails to mention that he was represented by an attorney for the trial that he lost.  The pictures that he has posted were taken years after the work had been completed and after McKinney had intentionally damaged the work before he took the pictures.  That is why he lost the case.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Tabor</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-6331</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-6331</guid>
		<description>It is all true Mckinney.  You know it is true and I have all the documentation.  Go ahead and bring your suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all true Mckinney.  You know it is true and I have all the documentation.  Go ahead and bring your suit.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-5735</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-5735</guid>
		<description>And do not take my word for what kind of man John Tabor is. Read his own words in his deposition at this link:

http://www.insulatedwallsystems.info

In the finest tradition of other lawyers like Bill Clinton (&quot;I did not have sex with that woman.&quot;) Mr. Tabor dances a jig around every question.

You really want to do business with a man who will tell you &quot;satisfaction guaranteed&quot; out of one side of his mouth while he drags your butt to court utilizing the free attorney services of his wife?

You have been warned!

Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And do not take my word for what kind of man John Tabor is. Read his own words in his deposition at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insulatedwallsystems.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.insulatedwallsystems.info</a></p>
<p>In the finest tradition of other lawyers like Bill Clinton (&#8221;I did not have sex with that woman.&#8221;) Mr. Tabor dances a jig around every question.</p>
<p>You really want to do business with a man who will tell you &#8220;satisfaction guaranteed&#8221; out of one side of his mouth while he drags your butt to court utilizing the free attorney services of his wife?</p>
<p>You have been warned!</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-5734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-5734</guid>
		<description>&quot;The McKinney’s refused to pay for any of the work claiming that they were not “satisfied”...&quot;

You bet I said this but what Mr. Tabor fails to tell you is that he was the one who stated in writing and verbally...

                &quot;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&quot;

My only mistake was taking the man at his word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The McKinney’s refused to pay for any of the work claiming that they were not “satisfied”&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You bet I said this but what Mr. Tabor fails to tell you is that he was the one who stated in writing and verbally&#8230;</p>
<p>                &#8220;SATISFACTION GUARANTEED&#8221;</p>
<p>My only mistake was taking the man at his word!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-5732</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-5732</guid>
		<description>The first half of the pictures is John Tabor&#039;s shoddy work. The second shows the reconstruction or do over performed by another contractor in which we are well pleased.

You want to have work done by John Tabor or &quot;Insulated Wall Systems&quot; then go right ahead and I hope for your sake that you like it because if you do not my experience with him was in his own words, &quot;I don&#039;t have to put up with this bullshit, I&#039;ll see you in court.&quot; And that is the only thing the man kept his word about.

In June following the December so-called &quot;walk-through&quot; I received a lawsuit from plaintiff filed by who? Yea you guessed it, his attorney wife Jana Tabor. Have much you figure that lawsuit cost him? And how much do you figure it would cost you if your wife or husband is not an attorney at $200 per hour?

Yea I lost and the chances are you will too! Oh, did I tell you he is trained attorney as well, not a practicing one but he claims to have a JD. Gee I wish I knew that before I signed his contract.


Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first half of the pictures is John Tabor&#8217;s shoddy work. The second shows the reconstruction or do over performed by another contractor in which we are well pleased.</p>
<p>You want to have work done by John Tabor or &#8220;Insulated Wall Systems&#8221; then go right ahead and I hope for your sake that you like it because if you do not my experience with him was in his own words, &#8220;I don&#8217;t have to put up with this bullshit, I&#8217;ll see you in court.&#8221; And that is the only thing the man kept his word about.</p>
<p>In June following the December so-called &#8220;walk-through&#8221; I received a lawsuit from plaintiff filed by who? Yea you guessed it, his attorney wife Jana Tabor. Have much you figure that lawsuit cost him? And how much do you figure it would cost you if your wife or husband is not an attorney at $200 per hour?</p>
<p>Yea I lost and the chances are you will too! Oh, did I tell you he is trained attorney as well, not a practicing one but he claims to have a JD. Gee I wish I knew that before I signed his contract.</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-5717</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-5717</guid>
		<description>Judge for yourself. Go to this web site www.insulatedwallsystems.info and look at the pictures of John Tabor&#039;s shoddy work. Yea he won in court. Big deal. He and his wife are attorneys. What do you expect? But he sure as hell is no contractor. The proof is in the pictures.

Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge for yourself. Go to this web site <a href="http://www.insulatedwallsystems.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.insulatedwallsystems.info</a> and look at the pictures of John Tabor&#8217;s shoddy work. Yea he won in court. Big deal. He and his wife are attorneys. What do you expect? But he sure as hell is no contractor. The proof is in the pictures.</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron McKinney</title>
		<link>http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/comment-page-1/#comment-5713</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://us.ripoffrecount.com/2009/09/ron-mckinney-has-lost-big-time-to-insulated-wall-systems-iws/#comment-5713</guid>
		<description>You have 30 days to remove this posting or I will sue you for broadcasting fraudulent and untrue postings.

Govern yourself accordingly.

Ron McKinney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have 30 days to remove this posting or I will sue you for broadcasting fraudulent and untrue postings.</p>
<p>Govern yourself accordingly.</p>
<p>Ron McKinney</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

